The Scotiabank Gold American Express Card Review
The Scotiabank Gold American Express card offers one of Canada’s richest accelerated rewards rates of 4 points per $1 and ushers in a new era of flexible travel redemption programs into the Canadian marketplace.
With a limited time *15,000-point sign-up bonus worth the equivalent of $150 (accounts must be opened by October 31st, 2018) this is a great time to try the card out risk free.
The Scotiabank Gold Amex card offers 4 points per $1 on gas, grocery, dining and entertainment spend, and 1 point per $1 everywhere else. No other credit card in Canada offers such an accelerated rewards accrual rate in that many categories. It’s also one of Canada’s most flexible travel cards, offering the flexibility to redeem your cash equivalent points for ANY travel expense! Plus it comes with one of the country’s best travel insurance programs.
Earning Points on Scotiabank Gold
The sign-up bonus of *15,000 points is extremely competitive. The only thing you’ll have to do to earn it is spend $1000 in the first 3 months, which is a very low spending threshold for such a high rewards bonus. If you’re spending between $300-$400 a month anyways (think gas & groceries alone), it’s a great deal.
The value proposition on the card is simple and extremely generous: you earn 4 points per $1 on all gas, grocery, dining and entertainment purchases, up to $50,000 spent per year, after which you’ll earn 1 point per $1. You’ll also earn 1 point on purchases in all other categories.
While some cash back cards offer 4% cash back, they only do it for gas and grocery purchases. The Scotiabank Gold card rewards cardholders with points for gas, grocery, dining and entertainment purchases, making it stand out from the pack.
Consider that the average Canadian spends $5,588 a year on groceries, $2,207 on restaurants, $3,600 a year on gas, and then let’s throw in an additional $8,000 on other credit card spend. Based on that spend profile you’ll earn the equivalent of $536 per year in rewards – quite robust and way over the card’s $99 annual fee.
Redeeming Points with Scotiabank Gold
One of the most innovative features of the Scotiabank Gold American Express card is that it allows you to book your travel first, then redeem your points to cover your travel costs after, as follows:
- Book any flight, hotel, car, cruise, train or package, on your credit card
- Wait for your travel purchases to appear on your credit card statement
- Then apply your points to your travel expenses on your credit card (100 points = $1)
This allows you to book on any airline, hotel, cruise or vacation package without any restrictions. No blackout dates, seat restrictions, or extra points for high season. You can also pay for all taxes and fees with your points!
Comparing Value Per $1 Spent on Your Credit Card
As we’ve said before, the earn rate on the Scotiabank Gold American Express card is among the highest of any card in Canada.
We’ve done some math to verify our assessment. Each point is worth about 1 cent. As a result, you’re essentially getting 4% back on gas, grocery, restaurant and entertainment spend and 1% everywhere else. That compares very favourably to the RBC Avion, CIBC Aventura, and BMO World Elite. By comparison, the BMO World Elite offers the equivalent of 2.1% back.
If you have a lot of spend outside of gas, grocery, restaurants and entertainment, you might want to consider something that gives a higher flat return rate than the Scotia Amex Gold card does, which gives ‘only’ the equivalent of 1% on all other purchases.
To see other alternatives, you can use our credit card comparison tool to find the best credit card for you, which has already converted points to their dollar value and allows you to enter your spend by category to see how much each card will earn for you.
Extras
Not to be outdone, Scotia has embedded a host of travel related benefits that we believe ranks it as one of the top 5 cards in Canada for insurance coverage. In fact the total package of embedded benefits can easily be worth over $1,000 per year:
- Travel Emergency Medical Insurance – As the primary cardholder, you, your spouse and accompanying dependent children are each automatically covered for up to $1 million in emergency medical coverage for up to 25 consecutive days out of province.
- Trip Interruption & Cancellation Insurance
- Flight Delay
- Delayed & Lost Luggage Insurance
- Common Carrier Travel Accident Insurance
- Rental Car Collision / Loss Damage Insurance
- Hotel / Motel Burglary Insurance
- Purchase Security & Extended Warranty Insurance – personal items purchased on your credit card are insured against theft, loss or damage for their first 90 days after purchase!
- Price Protection Service – Use your card to buy a new item that is offered for sale at a lower price within 60 days of purchase, the Price Protection Service, will pay you the difference up to $100.
Worth It?
In our view, Scotia’s accelerated rewards accrual rate makes it one of the top offers in the current Canadian travel card marketplace. And because you can apply your earnings to ANY travel expense on your credit card statement, you can start redeeming your welcome bonus right away!
*This is a statement from Scotia about the promotion: To be eligible for the 15,000 bonus points offer (this “Offer”), you must have at least $1000 in net purchases (purchases less returns or similar credits) posted to your Scotiabank credit card account (“Account”) in the first 3 months from the Account open date. The bonus points will appear as an adjustment on your Account statement within 2 statement cycles after the third billing cycle has passed provided the Account is open and in good standing. Offer applies to a new Account only opened by October 31, 2018 (the “Offer End Date”). Former or current Scotiabank credit cardholders that transfer from an existing Scotiabank credit card account or re-open a closed Scotiabank credit card account are excluded from this Offer. Offer may be changed or extended and cannot be combined with any other offer
Article comments
Hi Greedyrates,
I have Scotiabank Visa Momentum Infinite and almost utilized the 4% cashback for groceries and gas bucket. I do have quite a sizable cash back in the other purchases which cash back at 1%. I want to apply for the Scotiabank Gold Amex and use this card for other purchases only as I want to get travel rewards. Do you think if it’s a good card for other purchase to get travel points? Thanks
Hi Phin,
It sounds like you’re really enjoying your Scotiabank Momentum Visa Infinite card and getting a lot of use from it. If you’re approaching your annual spending cap on the 4.00% category for gas and groceries, and now want to collect travel rewards from these and “other” purchases (instead of earning at the base 1.00% rate for the rest of the year on your old card), we’ll give you a couple suggestions. First, your choice of the Scotiabank Gold Amex is a good one, because you’ll earn rewards points at the same 4.00% rate. You can use these points to pay for travel-related purchases that show up on your statement, no matter where or when they were booked. This is the best travel flexibility model we know of, but one downside is that as a current Scotia cardholder, you may not be eligible for the card’s 15,000-point welcome bonus.
Another suggestion we can make is the RBC Visa Infinite Avion card. You’ll earn points at a fast rate on all your purchases, and they can be transferred to an impressive variety of other travel rewards programs. You’ll also be eligible for the 15,000-point bonus offered by RBC, as well as a nice balance transfer promotion for 1.90% interest for 10 months, if it’s relevant to you. With booking powered by Orbitz, there are tons of flights available at great prices, and a solid package of insurance benefits is the cherry on top. As always, let us know if you have any more precise criteria and we’d be happy to adjust our recommendations. Thanks!
GreedyRates
Which gas station give me 4x points
Hi L b,
Good to hear from you. Regarding your question about the eligibility of certain gas stations in Canada for receiving 4 Scotia Rewards points per $1 spent by the Gold Amex card, the fine print says the following: You’ll earn rewards at this rate at “…merchants classified in the American Express network as: Gas Service Stations and Automated Fuel Dispensers.” This alone doesn’t say much, so we did a little digging and came up with a short list, though you can likely get the full one by calling Amex (they have an amazing customer support staff).
You’ll earn Scotia Rewards points at Esso, Petro-Canada, Shell, Ultramar, Irving Oil, Fas Gas Plus, Co-op Gas Bars, Race Trac, Pioneer Energy, and Bluewave Energy stations across the country. Amex has a healthy and varied network of merchants in Canada for gas stations, groceries and much more, so you can be confident that you’ll rack up rewards at a solid pace. Thanks for the comment.
GreedyRates
Hey greedy rates,
1. Any idea if Walmart will be considered a “grocery store”? Especially if I’m not purchasing grocery.
2. Does the fine print say anything about a reward limit? I am in a unique position where I spend ~200k/yr at Walmart. I currently have the AMEX platinum but would sign up in a heartbeat if I can get 4% on my Walmart purchases. Thanks!
Hey Dickson,
For Amex cards, Walmart is only considered a grocery store if you shop in the grocery section of a Walmart Supercentre. Regular, non-Supercentre Walmart locations won’t carry the special grocery code and will therefore earn rewards at the lowest possible rate. With such a unique position ($200,000 yearly spending at Walmart is certainly so), this makes it even more crucial to find a Supercentre to shop at in your area. We also recommend continually checking your statement to keep track of which purchases are collecting rewards at which rate, this way you can determine the items that aren’t eligible for the higher rate (even if they’re purchased from a Walmart Supercentre), which will sometimes happen with those that don’t precisely fit into the grocery category (like spatulas or other utensils).
We see no reason not to get the Scotiabank Amex Gold card and encourage you to test it out. There’s no maximum cap on rewards to worry about, so if it ends up being as good as we think, you’ll have found your new main credit card! Keep us in the loop and come back if you run into any unanticipated issues or need another recommendation. Thanks very much.
GreedyRates Staff
Hi, I just got this credit card and am receiving conflicting information as per points redemption, I was hoping you could clarify the issue for me.
If, for example, I purchase a plane ticket on Air Canada for $2,000 how many points would I require in order to offset that charge?
I was told by one rep 2,000 points and another 200,000 points. If it’s the latter, then that would require a high amount of spending on the actual card to reach that, no?
Thank you for your assistance.
Hey Jordan,
If you’ve purchased airfare, then that counts as a travel-related purchase and will therefore be payable directly from your statement using points—one of the best features of the Scotiabank Gold Amex card. We outlined in our article, as well as in the Loyalty Program Bible, that one Scotia Rewards point is worth $0.01. This means that when you use them to pay for travel that you’ve already charged to the card, then you need 100 points per dollar. If your trip with Air Canada cost $2,000, then you can multiply that by 100 to get 200,000.
To get 200,000 points with the card, that means you’ll need to spend $50,000 on purchases at the accelerated cash back rate of 4 points per $1—that’s on gas, groceries, dining and entertainment. However, we’re sure that you spend in other areas, so we can’t assume that you’ll only need to spend $50,000 before earning enough points to offset your trip.
Though that could be as much as a year’s spending, one free flight per year is appreciated. Remember that cards aren’t designed to earn cash back at ludicrous rates that would have you flying free every month, just for buying groceries. If you’re not satisfied with the card and need some alternatives that better match your spending habits or other preferences, let us know.
GreedyRates
I have this card, just signed up recently. However part of my reasearch I did not consider that alot of places do not take American Express. For example Loblaws and the Real Canadian Superstore do not take the card, as well as about 30% of the restaurants and stores I frequent, I live in Ottawa FYI. So is there a card other than American Express that you recommend in the same categorie?
Hey Phil,
Having an Amex card for your primary payment method is always a bit restricting, due to what you described in your comment. Though it’s accepted nearly universally online, using Amex in the store might be an issue because many merchants don’t want to pay Amex’s high interchange fees. As such, it’s smart to look for a second credit card to complement your Amex card, or to get a Visa or Mastercard that comes as close to the Amex as possible.
In your case, we can surely recommend a card similar to the Gold Amex from Scotiabank. You’re looking for a good welcome bonus, earnings from gas and groceries, and some other travel-centric perks as well. Check out the Alaska Airlines Platinum Plus Mastercard, to begin. It offers a generous 20,000-mile welcome bonus and earns 1 mile per $1 spent on everything you buy. You’ll also get an annual companion fare for $99, which you can use to cheaply fly a friend, relative, or spouse with you on your next flight. You’ll also earn at a higher rate of 3 miles for every $1 spent on travel from Alaska Airlines, and you can use these miles on AA’s large network of partner airlines to over 900 locations in the world. Essentially, it’s a card that’s just as flexible as the Gold Amex but it’s a Mastercard instead of Amex.
If you need alternatives, just let us know! We’re always here and happy to help.
GreedyRates
Hi,
I recently got approved for this card but would be receiving it via mail in few days. I read your article and I have couple of questions.
1. Right now I am using Scotia’s Scene Credit Card. So, will I get the 15,000 points within 3 months if I spend 1000$ ?
2. I have lot of scene points. Can I transfer these points to this new card ?
Thank you for our help !
Hey Pritish!
Great questions. To address them in the order in which they appear, we believe you’ll be able to earn the 15,000-point bonus for spending $1,000 in three months with you new Scotiabank Gold Amex card. However, this depends on how we’ve interpreted the card’s fine print. The fine print states that “Former or current Scotiabank credit cardholders that transfer from an existing Scotiabank credit card account or re-open a closed Scotiabank credit card account are excluded from this Offer. Offer may be changed or extended and cannot be combined with any other offer.”
The reason why we think you’ll be fine is because you’re not transferring from another card. You applied for the Gold Amex card in addition to your SCENE card, and unrelated to it. That means you’ll need to cancel your SCENE card when the Amex arrives. You’re also not re-opening a Scotia credit card account, since we assume you never had a Gold Amex before. If either of these assumptions aren’t true (you’re doing a transfer from the SCENE to the Gold card, or are re-opening a preexisting Gold card), then you might not be eligible. You’ll have to wait and see, but in the meantime, we’re confident.
As for points transferring to the new Amex Gold card, you’re golden (no pun intended). You can freely exchange SCENE points for Scotia Rewards points (and vice versa) simply by logging into your account online or by calling Scotiabank themselves. Let us know how it pans out for you. Good luck!
The GreedyRates Team
Hi. I plan on using my card for paying tuition and utilities. I have a RBC Visa that charges me $3.50 service fees for paying bills via my CC. Does this card have the same charge?
Hey TG,
We looked through the fine print of the Scotiabank Gold Amex card, and didn’t find anything that tells us you’ll be charged for paying bills with the card. The only fees mentioned were for cash advances, balance transfers, cheques, card replacements, and going over your limit. We think you’re probably safe when it comes to bills, but we also recommend calling customer service over at Scotia and asking specifically about this matter. After you’ve received confirmation, feel free to come back and apply using our link to ensure you get the bonus. Better safe than sorry!
GreedyRates
Hi I currently have an mbna world elite card, they have just implemented a one hundred twenty dollar a year fee, which previously was a no fee card. I am thinking of changing to the American express Scotia gold card can you use your earned points on the gold card to pay the early fee
Hey Ron,
We appreciate your comment about the MBNA Rewards World Elite card. We know it’s tough to stick with MBNA now that they’ve changed the card’s value proposition so heavily, but there are lots of great alternatives at the moment. You mentioned one: the Scotiabank Gold Amex, which is great for flexibly redeeming your points on any type of travel-related purchase. However, you can’t use the points to directly pay your annual fee.
If you want a card that doesn’t have an annual fee, but still has similar perks to the old MBNA card, check out the Rogers World Elite Mastercard. It has no annual fee and earns a flat cash back rate of 1.75% on all purchases. When you travel abroad and spend money in a foreign currency, it earns cash back at 4.00%. This applies to all purchases made in a foreign currency, even online shopping. With a great insurance benefits package, it comes close, if not exceeds the MBNA card in terms of value.
GreedyRates Staff
Just wondering with the ScotiaBank Gold American Express they say you can get 4 points per 1$ spent on gaz,groceries and dinning but how do i know wich ones to go to for those 4 points?
Thanks for your help! 🙂
Hi Jennifer,
The Scotiabank Gold Amex card is indeed an unmatched tool for collecting rewards at a fast rate on gas, groceries, and dining, but you’re right that it doesn’t make it obvious which places you’ll earn these points. For example, on the website it says, “Earn 4 Scotia Rewards points on every $1 you spend at eligible gas stations, grocery stores, on dining and entertainment.” It’s not immediately explicit which establishments are eligible, so we had to dig into the fine print.
Apparently, any places “classified in the American Express network as: Gas Service Stations and Automated Fuel Dispensers; Grocery Stores and Supermarkets; Eating Places and Restaurants, Drinking Places, Fast Food Restaurants; and Entertainment including Motion Picture Theaters, Theatrical Producers, Ticket Agencies, Bands, Orchestras and Miscellaneous Entertainers” will be considered eligible.
According to the Amex website and some other online resources, we compiled a basic list of relevant places where you’ll earn points. For grocery stores, you can go to Sobeys, Metro, Longo’s, 7-Eleven, Federated Co-op, Pusateri’s, Safeway, and Whole Foods Markets. This represents a pretty wide selection and should satisfy your needs no matter where you live. For gas stations, you’ll be able to earn 4 points per $1 at Irving Oil, Shell Canada, Ultramar, Petro Canada, Fas Gas, Esso, and Pioneer Energy. Dine out at McDonald’s or Burger King and you can also expect to earn the card’s normal rate. Hope that gives you a little more context!
Thanks,
GreedyRates Staff
If I cancel my Scotiabank Gold American Express card before the annual fee is due, will I lose the accumulated rewards points I currently have ?
Hey Fred!
Thanks for the awesome question. We’ve checked with Scotiabank about the longevity of your Scotia Rewards points, and even if your account is cancelled, you’ll still have 60 days from the date of cancellation to redeem them. It doesn’t matter if your last annual fee is paid or not. In fact, it’s probably smart of you to cancel it before the fee hits (if you don’t like the card, or want a new one), and then to take your time spending the points. If you need any advice or recommendations about your next credit card, you know where to find us!
GreedyRates
How is this card compared to Amex Cobalt? I want to weigh my options against this card.
I have 50% of my spends on Groceries (Mostly Freshco & Walmart), 20% on a restaurant, 10% on TTC, 5% on Movies & rest on others. I don’t have a car.
Cobalt gives 5x churn on groceries, food (eligible) 2x travel & transit and 1x on others
Scotia Gols give 4x grocery stores, on dining and entertainment (eligible) & 1x on others
If Amex is not accepted then I can use Scotia Scene card and convert the scene points to Scotia rewards to avail flight tickets. This makes more sense since it will be within the ecosystem. Only thing would be to deal with Scotia portal instead of Amex and need to explore on this.
What would be a better deal here? to go with Cobalt or Scotia? if I go with Cobalt then what can be an alternate card as cashback?
Hey Swas!
If you’re looking at the Scotiabank Gold Amex and the Cobalt Amex, you’re definitely presented with a tough choice. These are two of the best cards on the market, but they excel at different things. It sounds like your goal for your credit cards is to travel and get a great deal on airfare, however, which makes our job a lot easier. We know it’s easy to see the flashy Cobalt card and simply want it, but the Gold Amex is likely the best bet for your situation. With most of your spending originating from groceries, it’ll earn more points than the Cobalt card, which works largely with restaurants, delivery and fast food.
You mentioned that you want to be able to convert SCENE points to Scotia Rewards, but that you’re hesitant of using the Scotia online portal. Converting points is very easy, and Scotia has a dedicated page for it here. You can choose whether to convert SCENE points to Scotia Rewards, or vice versa, and then the balance in your Account tab will display the new total immediately.
As far as booking airfare goes, once you’ve converted your SCENE points, you can simply book any airfare or travel arrangements you like. It doesn’t matter where they’re booked or when, where you’re flying to, or for how long. Once the charge shows up on your statement, you can pay for it with the points you’ve collected (both Scotia Rewards and the SCENE points you previously converted). Hope we’ve helped!
GreedyRates
Thank you so much and I have applied for Scotia Gold Amex. I am 3 months old in the country and Soctia declined my application online however, I was able to visit in person and the staff was really helpful. They approved my application under Scotia right program and will get my card in 7 – 10 business days.
How do I redeem rewards as I can not find the website or portal to book and not in favor of calling as a consumer it seems ludicrest to talk to someone and get charger 35.00 to book a souther trip.
Hey Bruce,
If you need to redeem your points, then first know that what you earn isn’t Amex Membership Rewards, but Scotia Rewards. The portal to login to your Scotia Rewards Catalogue is linked below, but if it doesn’t seem familiar, you may have neglected to sign up for Scotia Online & Mobile banking. If you look on the right-hand side of this same page, there’s a section for signing up.
https://www.scotiaonline.scotiabank.com/online/authentication/authentication.bns?extid=001&extoption=7101
Otherwise, there’s no reason why you can’t call Scotiabank and get them to set it up for you. Let us know if you run into a snag pursuing either of these solutions. Thanks for the comment!
GreedyRates
I am planning on a 15 day trip and purchasing it on my Scotiabank gold american express card. Medical coverage for the duration of this trip is limited because of my age. Is trip interruption, baggage loss trip cancellation limited too because of my age
Hey Eliz,
If you’re planning on going on a 15-day trip overseas and need to count on your Scotiabank Gold Amex card to cover you for medical emergencies, then age is a relevant restriction. The Scotiabank Gold card only covers those under age 65 for 15 days, and if you’re older than this, coverage is reduced to 10 days. We understand you might hesitate to spend any number of days without coverage, so your best bet in the future is to find a card that extends this benefit for longer. If you had the National Bank World Elite card, for example, then you’d have the option for medical insurance the entire trip.
Regardless of medical protection or your age, you’ll still be able to take advantage of your card’s trip interruption and cancellation insurance. There are no details in the fine print to suggest that anything other than the circumstances of the cancellation itself will have an impact on one’s eligibility. We hope you enjoy the trip!
The link below might also help you in your future search for a better card, if insurance is a priority:
https://www.greedyrates.ca/blog/free-travel-insurance-credit-card/
GreedyRates
hi, i have gold american express credit card and i have 39000 thousand point. how to redeem that points?
Hey Joe-am,
Thanks for the question about redeeming Amex Membership Rewards. Your points are kept by Amex in an account under your name, which is accessible online through Amex’s website. You can see how many points you have in the dashboard, what you’ve been spending on, and also browse the impressive selection of goods and services that Amex offers.
The catalogue has travel plans and arrangements, fine wines, spirits, and other gourmet experiences, high-quality merchandise, and more. If you’re logged in, then all you need to do to redeem those 39,000 Membership Rewards is simply click. With that many Rewards, you can immediately get $200 in Amazon gift card cash, a pair of Bose Hi-Fi headphones, a set of Panasonic phones for your home, and more.
If you need help accessing your Amex Membership account, then call Amex and they’ll help you. Happy shopping!
GreedyRates
hi, can i redeem my points for vacation? like going to mexico?
Hey Joe!
Thanks for the great question about Scotiabank and welcome to GreedyRates. What you can do with Scotiabank’s rewards depend on the kind of points they are, because the bank’s cards have two kinds: Scotia Rewards points and Scotia Scene points. Scene points are used for entertainment and events, like going to movies or theatres, while Scotia Rewards points are redeemable for travel, hotels, and more. You can learn more about the exchange rate between Rewards and Scene points in our Loyalty Program Bible.
The Scotiabank Gold Amex card above earns Rewards points only, which is good news for you. Using Scotia’s own online travel centre, you’ll have a wide array of flight destinations, airlines, and other travel options to browse and book with points exclusively. Scotia has partnered with many travel providers, so there will likely be a way to get to Mexico, if that’s where you want to go. Enjoy a pina colada for us!
The GreedyRates Team
I have over 65000 points can I redeem them for cash.
Hey Wilhelmina,
Thanks for the question! If you’re looking to redeem your Scotia Rewards points for cash, then it might be misleading to read Scotia’s own page for the card, which doesn’t include much information about how Rewards are redeemed. Fortunately, we were able to get ahold of a Scotia representative to clear it up for us.
Apparently, cardholders who want to skip the merchandise and travel rewards can indeed redeem their Rewards for a cash equivalent. It’s not exactly the same as flexible cash back, but the representative told us that cardholders can do a statement credit with their Rewards, and also request cheques from Scotiabank in increments of $100. We hope that this is satisfactory for you. According to our Loyalty Program Bible, your 65,000 points is worth $650, so you can request six cheques of $100 each from Scotia and then save up another 5,000 points to get the last cheque if you like.
Thanks again,
GreedyRates
Hi there,
I believe I also read that this Scotia Bank Gold AmEx card also gains access to the American Express lounge in airports equipped with same but see no metion of it here. Is that correct?
Hi David!
Good of you to come to GreedyRates with your question. We’re sorry that we didn’t mention this in the article, but the Priority Pass that comes with the Scotiabank Gold Amex card does allow cardholders access to American Express lounges. This makes sense to us, but we had to confirm it just to be sure. This makes the perk even more beneficial, because there are Amex lounges in many airports worldwide. Depending on your layover, it’s likely that there’s a relaxing, private space just around the corner.
Thanks for pointing that out for us. We’ll update our review accordingly. Have a great day!
GreedyRates Staff
To be clear, my understanding is that the card gives you a discounted rate for the yearly membership of the Priority Pass program. And in doing so, you can access the lounges based on the PP lounge rate.
Hey Ryan,
Thanks for coming to GreedyRates. Your comment is entirely correct. Cardholders with the Scotiabank Gold American Express card will get automatically enrolled in Priority Pass membership for $65 per year, instead of the standard $99. Then, they’ll need to pay $27 per visit just like every other Priority Pass member—even those who are paying $399 per year for the ‘Prestige’ package. Given these facts, the discounted Priority Pass membership is still quite valuable for frequent travelers, and you can always cancel it if you don’t end up taking advantage.
Another Scotiabank card such as their Passport Visa Infinite offers the same benefit, but instead of a discount, the Priority Pass membership is complimentary. That’s already $65 more value than the Gold Amex, and it also includes 6 free passes annually ($162 equivalent) for a total of $227 more value. Curiously enough, the annual fee difference between the two cards is just $40. If you’re big on airport lounges, then the Passport Visa Infinite will satisfy your standards much better than the Gold Amex.
GreedyRates
Hi there,
I was pre-approved for a credit card with Scotiabank however I also applied for the Scotia amex gold I was declined on April 27th because I didn’t met the criteria or something like that….. I called Scotiabank and ask them why I was declined the guy on the phone told me that the minimum income to get that card is 60k I make 50k a year that’s what I put on the online application.. and I saw the minimum income is 12k I’m very focused I also have a hard inquire in my credit report just for that what can I do?…
BTW I was able to get the scotia amex gold by switching the credit card I was pre-approved for, I am 50% happy and 50% angry
This will affect my credit report in the future thank you…
Hi Jose, thanks for coming to us for help with your issue. We’re sorry you ran into trouble with your application, and have done some detective work on your behalf to get to the bottom of the situation. Unfortunately, what we’ve learned is contradictory to what you were told. The Scotiabank representative we spoke with said that there was no annual fee requirement for the Gold Amex card, which also reflects the lack of any number on their website. This differs from previous communiques we’ve received from Amex, which indicate that the card has a $12,000 income requirement. Either way, this barrier is very low. The Scotia rep also said that Scotia considers applicants based on their credit history, among other internal components. We asked if someone with a $20,000 annual income could get approved, and he again confirmed that for the Scotia Gold Amex, income is no issue.
Perhaps the agent you spoke with was thinking of another card, or maybe they had no answer and said the first thing that came to mind. Regardless, we’re very sorry for the confusion and will update our article immediately to reflect this update.
We think that your later approval for the Gold card is also representative of our findings, as you were able to get preapproved and receive the card without an application. Enjoy it, because you certainly went through some trouble. Thanks again.
GreedyRates Staff
Hello, what if I transfer money from the card, like $4000 to my main account and use it, what will be interest and also how many points will I get in return?
Hi Tosin. If you’re approved for a $5,000 credit limit with Scotiabank, for example, by transferring $4,000 to the card you won’t earn any rewards points because cash advances are not considered an ‘eligible purchase.’ Only purchases that are for tangible products and services will earn rewards, so things like transfers, advances, fees and surcharges are all irrelevant. Thanks again and good luck.
GreedyRates Staff
Hey some questions I got this card recently , I know the Scotiabank visa infinity card gives 1 point per dollar for pre Authorized reoccurring bills set to the card dose this gold card give points for that aswell? Also would buying let’s say a gift card at a grocery store count under the 4x points ? 🙂
Hi Vincent, thanks for your great questions! You’re right that the Scotiabank Visa Infinite card gives 1 point per $1 on recurring bill payments, but this benefit does not apply to the Scotiabank Gold Amex card. Additionally, we’re aware that buying gift cards in a grocery store is essentially a way to earn free cash, as one is essentially buying cash, but then earns more cash back on top. Every credit card issuer is also aware of this strategy, unfortunately. That means that gift cards will not earn cash back, but we can assure you that the card is still excellent. Let us know if you have any more questions. Thanks again!
GreedyRates Staff
Hi! Great article. Quick question: I have both the AMX gold rewards card and the Scotiabank gold card. Both can be used towards fllight costs. But is there anyway to combine the points? Ie. If I have 70,000 points on the AMX and 20,000 on the Scotiabank, can I combine them or transfer the Scotiabank points to AMX, in order to have the 90,000 necessary for a flight to South East Asia?
Thanks!
Hey Sangeethai! Thanks for your positive feedback! We always love to get praise from our readers and will do our best to meet your expectations with this question. Unfortunately, there isn’t a way to combine Amex Membership Rewards with Scotia Points. While some loyalty rewards points programs also have partnerships, like with Starwood and Aeroplan, interoperability between points isn’t a common benefit and doesn’t apply to your situation. We’re sorry! However, you can easily determine which card is best for every situation by studying our Loyalty Program Bible.
With it, when you’re faced with a situation where you can use either card, you’ll be able to determine which gives you the most for your money. While it also depends on what you can redeem these points for, the guide tells us that in terms of average value per point, Amex and Scotia rewards are each worth around $0.01.
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Must watch your spending. We have the Scotia AMX but don’t spend a lot on groceries and gas. I guess we don’t eat at enough high end restaurants because AMX is not accepted about 75% of the time I try to use it. I was in the process of canceling the card and other than travel the rewards give you far less value than a no fee credit card with a 1% cash back. The foreign exchange fees are too high to use the card out of the country. I always hope the insurance will pay if something ever happens and I need it.
Hi,
I will like to know if the 4% earning still applying when you are in a foreing country?
thanks,
Mariano
Hey Mariano, thanks for the interesting question. American Express, despite the name, is known for its international presence. If you earn 4.00% cash back on gas and groceries purchases via the Scotia Gold card, then this applies to merchants with the correct code no matter where you are. Amex and other issuers use merchant codes to determine where cardholders will earn rewards at an accelerated rate, so if you’re in Australia, purchases made at an Amex merchant carrying the appropriate code will earn cash back. However, the code schema is often changed slightly between countries, so it’s not often obvious or logical what code a store has. A bodega with some groceries may not always be considered a ‘grocery store’ according to Amex, for example.
So, while the card will likely earn cash back at some merchants abroad, and offset the foreign transaction fee, it’s not as reliable as it is in Canada. Best of luck!
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The ad says 25,000 Scotia rewards bonus points ($250.00 in value ), but the application says 15,000 points. Am I missing something?
Hi David,
The bonus is 15,000 points. Thanks for pointing out the error.
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If my husband books a flight for the both of us using his own Mastercard credit card (3 x points on travel vs. Scotia at 1x) and we have a baggage delay, can we claim the insurance from Scotia Amex who offers a better coverage (1000/4hrs vs. MC at 200/12hrs)?
Hey Joanne, thanks for the interesting question! Unfortunately, to use Scotia’s Baggage Delay insurance, you must use the card to purchase your tickets. However, you can still avail of Mastercard’s baggage delay coverage, just call them and explain the situation. If you believe that your bags might be delayed on your upcoming trip, perhaps purchasing your tickets with the Scotia card would be better, though you’ll earn less points in comparison. Thanks again.
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do i have to book with my card to cover any medical costs or will i have coverage by just having the card
Hi Robert, thanks for your comment! We’re happy to help. If you want coverage from Scotia’s Gold Amex card, the only prerequisite is that you’re a cardmember–that’s it. You, your spouse, and accompanying dependent children will all receive $1 million in emergency medical coverage. There is no requirement that you purchase travel arrangements to benefit from this insurance, so you can travel worry free. Thanks again for stopping by.
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Is there a medical requirement for travel I surance
Hi John,
We appreciate your comment and understand your concerns. If you’re worried about being ineligible to receive a credit card due to your medical condition, then have no fear. There are no cases of a credit card issuer rejecting an applicant due to their medical record, regardless of how comprehensive the card’s insurance package is. Your problem may rear its head when trying to redeem the card’s insurance coverage, however.
The fine print of every credit card’s insurance pamphlet lists all the preexisting medical conditions that would prevent cardholders from receiving remuneration, should they require hospitalization on a trip. Normally, that’s how medical coverage on credit cards works: It doesn’t pay for your care, but if you fell ill or were injured in an “eligible” way, then you’re allowed to petition the card’s insurance provider for reimbursement. Dig into the fine print to see if your condition is preexisting, and if you’re not sure, call Scotia. Hope that helps you out!
Thanks again,
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Hi, it seems that each $ spent earns 1 reward point. I spend on grocery and gas.
Where does the 4 points per dollar come from?
Do I have to shop in certain stores only, and if so, which ones?
Do you cover travel medical insurance for someone over 75?
For what seasonal I covered on the card should I need to cancel I.e. up to the day of departure
How much for I terruption
Do I pay first if somethi g happens or does the credit card payright away
How much a day to top up
Hi Fran, thanks for the thorough questions! We hope we can give you answers that satisfy. First, if you’re over 65, the Scotiabank Gold Amex will cover you with travel medical insurance for 10 consecutive days. This also includes those over 75, 85, and older. If you want to extend your coverage, in the case of a longer trip for example, then you should be able to purchase an extension by calling Scotiabank at 1-877-391-7507. However, ensure that you do this *before* you depart for your trip, and that the cost of the extension is paid in full before you leave as well. If something happens during the trip and you need to use the medical coverage, Scotiabank doesn’t pay your bills for you, but will reimburse you afterwards, according to the details in the fine print. Unfortunately, we don’t know how much it costs per day to top up your insurance, but we’re sure you can easily find this information by calling the number above. Good luck and safe travels!
Hi,
Can you redeem your points from the scotia bank gold American express for gift cards and products?
Thank you
What exactly constitutes Entertainment?
Hey Liz, thanks for your question. Per the fine print, entertainment expenses include, “Motion Picture Theaters, Theatrical Producers, Ticket Agencies, Bands, Orchestras and Miscellaneous Entertainers.” It goes on to describe that the definition of any particular charge is always left to the discretion of American Express, however, so some merchants might not be labelled as ‘entertainment’ in their system.
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I see on a website another promotion when getting the Scotia Gold amex is access to Priority Pass Lounges worldwide. Is this the case ? Thank you
Hi Judy! Welcome to GreedyRates. The airport lounge access is a nice perk, but keep in mind that it’s not free. It simply gives you the right to enter for a lower price than the standard walk-in, and also entry into those lounges that require membership and turn away non-members. There are too many to list here, but they’re all crucial when on a long layover. Thanks for reading!
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can you transfer a balance fr another credit card to this one and still get points
Hey Pauline, thanks for the great question! As far as we know, there is no reason why you can’t get the 25,000 bonus points and also do a balance transfer. However, there are a couple things to keep in mind. The first is that the interest rate for balance transfers to the Scotia Gold card are subject to a 22.99% interest rate, so you’d better pay it off quickly after the transfer.
Second, the 25,000-point bonus is currently only available to those who are approved for the card before February 28, 2018. So you should act fast! Let us know if we can be of any further assistance.
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I am wondering if Scotiabank Gold AMEX rewards can be redeemed 1-1 for Aeroplan points just like the AMEX Gold Rewards does? Thanks for your insight!
Hey Allison, thanks for the question! We understand your question but just want to clarify one thing before we provide the answer. The Scotia Gold Amex earns reward points that can be used to pay for any airline, hotel, or other travel expense that you want. There’s no need to trade Scotia points for Aeroplan points. You can simply go to Aeroplan (or any airline you want), buy the ticket and then pay for it with Scotia points once the charge hits your account. The points even allow you to cover fees and taxes on these tickets, so your entire trip can be covered by Scotia and not just the cost of the ticket itself. Great deal, no?
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Hey Carlos, thanks for leaving your comment with GreedyRates! To address your question about the Tangerine Cash Back card (one of our favorites), you can find the categories as they appear on the Tangerine site, below:
You’ll earn 2.00% cash back in two of the categories below and then 0.50% on everything else:
– Grocery
– Furniture
– Restaurants
– Hotel-Motel
– Gas
– Recurring Bill Payments
– Drug Store
– Home Improvement
– Entertainment
– Public Transportation and Parking
Tangerine makes it easy for anyone to maximize their rewards based on where they spend the most money. While Tangerine likely has a list of eligible retailers in each of the categories listed above (which you can check by calling them), they won’t restrict you too much. Enjoy the card!
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Hi
Applied for this card back in December and met their minimum spend. I am not a churner but they havent gave me my 25000 points yet. Does it take a while before they give it? Even after you meet the minimum spend for the bonus points?
Hey Jun, we appreciate the comment. According to the collective experience of our readers, we’ve estimated the lag time at around 2-3 monthly statements that you’ll need to wait before seeing the bonus appear in your account. If you got the card in December and already met the minimum spending limit, then you’ll likely receive your points sometime in March, with April not out of the question. At this point in time, if you don’t see your rewards coming in, we’d give customer service a ring and inquire with them. Thanks for reading!
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This card would be better if everyone took American express, not gonna be keeping this card.
Hi Steve, thanks for leaving your comment at GreedyRates, let’s see if we can assist. You’re totally right, first of all–AmEx isn’t universally accepted at all retailers or merchants, so it’s usually not the best choice for someone’s only credit card. We don’t recommend cancelling it unless you really feel strongly that it’s not the card for you, and we will suggest appropriate companion (or replacement) travel cards that aren’t from this issuer.
The primary benefit of the Scotia Gold Amex is the flexibility with which one can use their earned points. One of the only non-Amex cards that allow retroactive, broad redemptions is the BMO Rewards World Elite Mastercard. It allows you to use your points to book flights with any airline with no blackout dates, and also redeem these points on fees, surcharges and taxes as well. It has excellent travel insurance and grants you access to the VIP airport lounge. The only downside is that these privileges require you to show a minimum annual income of $80,000 per year. You can learn more by reading our complete BMO Rewards World Elite Mastercard review, or you can apply for the card directly via this link.
If you don’t meet that income requirement, RBC’s Infinite Avion card is another option with similar perks and a lower income requirement of $60,000 per year. However, it’s also missing some of the premium perks that BMO offers. You can read our complete RBC Visa Infinite Avion review to learn more details about the card, or you can apply for the card directly via this link. We recommend that you check out both and let us know if we’re on the right track. The Best of luck!
Thanks for your great reviews! Very informative. After doing some comparisons on your site, I am thinking of signing up for either the Amex gold rewards, or Scotiabank gold amex. I travel to Europe at least once a year, and stay for close to a month. I already have the Rogers Platinum MC, and I use that for foreign purchases. Sometimes I rent a car while abroad. I put all of my purchases on credit, and pay off the balance monthly. Was wondering which card of the two would be best (or any other card you might suggest).
Also, I have an RBC rewards gold visa. However, to my surprise, I was recently sent an rbc rewards plus visa. I was told that the gold visa has been discontinued and replaced with the rewards plus. Is there any chance of getting my gold visa back? The rewards plus has none of the insurance benefits of the gold. When I called them they said no, but I’m wondering if there is a possibility if I insisted.
Hi PJ, thanks for your excellent comments. First, if you called RBC and they told you the Rewards Plus Visa is the replacement for the now-cancelled Gold Visa, we wouldn’t argue. Generally, “insisting” with any issuer will get you nowhere. Instead, look into the cards you just mentioned. Both are excellent choices if you like travelling, but we like the Scotiabank Gold AmEx a bit more. Their introductory bonus is one of the best available, and the card earns rewards fast and lets you redeem them on almost any travel program (including airlines). Alongside travel insurance to rival the best of them, there are few reasons for travellers not to apply.
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Hello
i applied online and was approved for $20,000 limit. i am wondering is it possible to request split credit limit and request 3 new cards so that all have $5,000 credit card limit. This way all accounts will be considered new and there is a possibility to get 4 x $300 = $1200 in rewards.
i work for TD bank and TD considers every new account opened via split limit as new account. wondering if scotia bank will do the same? it will be great to earn all these rewards by having just 1 credit check and have 4 accounts instead.
Thanks
Hey Shaun, great strategy! We appreciate the creative use of supplementary cards, but we can’t be sure that Scotiabank applies the same logic as TD. If you like, get in touch with Scotia via live chat, email or phone, and describe your question to them. You should mention you believe TD allows one to earn a seperate bonus for each new account, and that you are looking to get one new card and 3 supplementary ones for four total. We hope you succeed and truly get $1,200! If it works, let us know and perhaps we can inform other readers. Thanks.
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Let me say I love this site. The apply now button does not seem to be working…always says can’t connect…I’m trying to sign up for the Scotia AMEX card.
Thanks and keep up the good work
Hi Walter,
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
We can’t find the error you found clicking the APPLY NOW buttons, they work fine for us. Could you try again please? And if the problem persists, would you mind sharing a screenshot with us through our email? info@greedyrates.ca
Thanks again,
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On my laptop it was still giving me the same error message but I was able to apply on my mobile phone…it says I was approved.
Hello,
Do I have to open up an account with Scotia Bank in order to pay off this card every month?
Thanks
Hey Laura, thanks for your question. You can apply for the Scotiabank Gold AmEx card without having a bank account with Scotia, and you don’t need a bank account to pay off the card itself. This can be done from a different credit card or existing bank account easily. Scotia has great customer service, so we recommend that you call and explain your situation to them. They can tell you the most effective and inexpensive way to pay on time each month without a Scotia bank account.
I applied for and received the card, but since I got it I have ongoing problems when trying to use it. I have constantly having to swipe the card because the chip and the tap features do not work. I have been to my bank and they “tested “the card and say its OK. I tried to use the card to pay for an AIRB&B in Australia and the card was not accepted, I spent 2 hours on the phone and 3 calls to the customer service, told ,the system was rebooting try later did still rejecting card subsequent call told all was OK with card keep trying. Finally used my TD visa to book AIRB&B and flight to Australia. Wanted to get points and use travil insurance benifits but could not with this card. Feel cheated , also have never received sign up points after charging the 750$.
When I told my travel agent that I had planned to use the American express card and the problems with it, she immediately asked “is it Scotia Bank” she has had trouble with it before!
Hey Dennis, thanks for reporting back. We’re very sorry to hear you were disappointed with your Scotia card. You say the chip payment method wasn’t working and that it was difficult to purchase through AirBnB: quite a problem! While you’re the first to report such issues, be assured that we believe you and will not encourage you to stick with a card that you don’t like. Normally, Scotiabank has strong reviews from our readers, but if you’d like us to recommend a different card for you just let us know. Thanks again.
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I am totally having the same problems. When i go to stores that accepts AMEX, I’ve tapped, swiped, and put my chip in and it still didn’t work. Called and went into the branch and they said my card had no problem. When I change some of my online billing that accepts AMEX my card doesnt work either. Says credit card number not valid… I thought it was just me. Seems like Scotiabank AMEX vs. regular american AMEX is different. Other AMEX cards don’t seem to have this problem. 🙁
Wondering if the points on the Scotia Amex expire or if there is a limit on the amount of points you can earn?
Thank You,
E
Hey Elke!
While there are some restrictions when it comes to how a cardholder uses their points, there is no expiry date on them and they will remain with you as long as the account is open and in good standing. Please call customer service and have them confirm these details, as the fine print leaves a bit of detail to be desired. Thanks!
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Hello,
Just want to know if the Scotiabank Amex Gold card Out of Country Medical Insurance allows top -up from third party ? Our trip normally exceeds 25 days.
Thanks,
Hey Esther!
Thank you very much for reading, and for asking a unique yet important question. For those under 65 who are traveling for more than 25 days, or those 65 and older who are gone for more than 10 days, there is an option to purchase coverage extensions directly through Scotiabank. This may be important, as depending on one’s age, coverage drops after a certain period of time spent abroad – and this could be dangerous.
Fortunately, if you know you’ll be gone for longer than the default coverage period, you can order an extension ahead of time. Per Scotia’s website: “… [Cardholders may] purchase extension coverage from Scotia Assist prior to [their] departure by calling (416) 572-3636 or 1-877-391-7507. You will receive a separate certificate of insurance if you choose to purchase this coverage.” Hope that answers your question. Happy travels!
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First off, this site is great and has been a huge help for me. I’m looking at getting a new card as my Avion card seems to be lagging behind other cards. I was wondering what you think I should do with my points? I have about 40,000 but won’t be going anywhere until August where I will be flying to South Korea to study abroad. This leads me to my second question. I was looking at both this car as well as the Rogers Platinum card as my new cards. I was thinking of using this card for big purchases with Warranties and for the 4 bonus categories, While then picking up the Rogers Card For my purchases in South Korea (will be there for a year) as well as other American purchases and day to day purchases for the Cash Back. Does this seem like a good plan?
Hey Samuel!
Thanks for reading GreedyRates, and again for your warm compliments. We’re glad to be of service 🙂
To address your concern about your current Avion card – you’re right, it might be time to consider a replacement. This goes double due to your upcoming relocation abroad!
In the meantime, figure out how to best spend those points. You can do something fun or to aid in your travel preparations. How very exciting!
The Scotiabank Gold Amex card is a suitable complement to the Rogers card, and your readership has clearly educated you well. You can use the former on gas, groceries, dining and entertainment for the 4% cash back, which will help cover the 2.5% foreign transaction fees in South Korea, and accrue points that you can redeem on travel expenses. Plus it will protect you well, as you mentioned.
For other purchases there, the Rogers card is great, as it will save money via cash back and the foreign transaction fee exemption.
We recommend going with your gut. Apply for both cards quickly – you have a little over a month before you need to be ready, and these cards will help you immensely in this regard.
Hope that helps,
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Hi Greedy rates!
I just received my card last month and I have already charged around $500 on the card. I found a good deal for hotel and I was wondering if I can book the hotel now and once I received my points, use them for this hotel purchase. I m not sure how long would it take to receive those points and if I can use it for this particular purchase since it was done before I met spending limit and before I got my points. Maybe you have experience with this. Also thanks for doing great job with credit cards research and reviews! I took lot of advices from you and saved lot of money!
Hey Zuzana,
Thanks for an interesting question! Also, congrats on getting ahold of the Scotiabank Gold Amex – it’s truly one of our best, and it looks like you’re currently trying your best to spend $750 in the first three months to fulfill the promotion.
If the price of the hotel is over $250, then you will have spent over $750 on the card and will be sent the 30,000 rewards points. However, these points may not hit your account in the timeframe you intended. In fact, it might take a full statement period or longer.
Another reason this method may not be recommended is because by spending rewards points to cover the hotel costs, the hotel may credit your AmEx the dollars you originally paid, which could complicate your eligibility for the bonus. Regardless, you might just want to wait to spend the rewards on your next hotel stay instead.
Thanks for being such a fan! We appreciate you reading GreedyRates
Can you put the purchase on gift card to fulfill the minimum spending of $750 in the first 3 months?
Bear in mind, there’s not a lot of store accepts AMEX
Hey Andy, thanks for your question.
Regarding your concerns that there are not enough American Express-compatible locations in Canada for you to reach $750 in the first three months, we believe that your strategy of buying a gift card is a good one. AmEx states that if there are $750 of net purchases on the account statement by the end of the third month from approval, then the bonus is earned.
A gift card counts as a purchase, so if you buy $750 worth of them (or just one gift card worth $750) within three months, you should be eligible for the $300 offer. To be sure, you could call customer service and inquire. We appreciate that you came to us first though! Good luck getting your bonus.
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If I purchase a flight with Aeroplan points can I use the points from this card to pay for the taxes + fees?
Hey Sam!
Thanks for your question – it’s one that we have received before, and we will work to make our reviews more complete to avoid confusion in the future. That said, cardholders cannot pay for the taxes and fees on an airline ticket with their Aeroplan points. They can use cash, or another credit card and still remain eligible for benefits like the free checked bag, however. Most of the flight’s cost can be redeemed from Aeroplan points, though unfortunately, not 100%.
We hope that helps,
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Hi Greedyrates,
totally unrelated, i noticed you stop analyzing Capital One credit card, is there any reasons? i just want to make sure all the comparison at this site is unbias
Hi Andy, thanks for your great inquiry.
We take our credit card reviews very seriously, and our team of testers thoroughly researches the large and fine print before making recommendations. The relationships that we have with the issuers about whom we write reviews are completely transparent, and we can honestly tell you that the reason we do not write about Capital One cards is simply because we do not yet have permission from them. While this may change, for now, we will never say a word against Capital One’s products. There are several great Capital One cards out there, and if you’re currently considering one, we’re confident that you will receive great value.
However, there are cards that we recommend here at GreedyRates that are similar, so before deciding on one single credit card, ensure that your research was as comprehensive as possible. Good luck!
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Does the offer apply to former Scotiabank Gold Amex members? I can’t find anything in the terms and conditions suggesting that it does not… I cancelled this card a few months back to avoid the annual fee but would love to reap the rewards again.
Hey Scott!
Thanks for your awesome question. You made a great choice with the Scotiabank Gold AmEx card, and it’s no surprise to us that you’re back for seconds!
However, you may have missed in the fine print that Scotiabank only offers this bonus to new customers. The good news is that Scotiabank defines a new customer as someone who is newly applying for this card, meaning that those who have had the card in the past but are opening a new application are still eligible for the bonus. This includes you!
Ensure that you have had no other credit applications within the last couple of months before applying. We usually recommend this to reduce the risk of a dent on your credit score. Enjoy!
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I just got approved for this card! Was wondering if it’s possible to somehow get points for plane tickets I bought in early January. Is this an option?
Hey Lisa, thanks for your question and congratulations on getting approved for the Scotiabank Gold American Express card!
Regarding your question on whether or not you can accrue rewards points for tickets that you purchased in January, we’re sorry, but unfortunately this is not possible. Purchases made since approval and activation of your new credit card are eligible to earn points, but not purchases made before the account was opened.
However, depending on the tickets purchased, the airline and other factors, it may be possible to cancel your flight for little to no fees and repurchase tickets of a similar fare with your new Amex card. We recommend checking for this possibility, though it may not be likely.
Good luck!
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I was told that if I were abroad other than the US, and charged to my card in non-US funds, I would be charged 2.5% conversion to USD, and then another 2.5% conversion to CAD. Is this correct?
Hey Phil, thanks for your question.
We hear of many people being misinformed in this manner, and thankfully the information you were given is not correct. You will only be charged the foreign transaction fee once, no matter which currency you are exchanging or where you are. Credit card issuers use the US Dollar as the peg currency in all cases of foreign exchange, but whether or not they make this known is another matter. Regardless, customers will only ever be charged once for the currency conversion.
Hope that helps,
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I signed up for this card in January, and was approved. However due to how long it took to complete the paperwork I did not receive and activate the card until the beginning of April. Will I still be eligible for the bonus points if I spend $750 in 3 months? Or did the 3 months begin when I was approved?
Hi Taylor!
Good question, and congratulations on getting approved for the Scotiabank Gold Amex card. It’s a great card that will serve you well, as will the bonus!
A bit about the bonus: it begins once you have activated the card. You will be eligible for the bonus when you spend at least $750 within three months from when you activated the card. Because you recently activated it in early April, you now have a little under three months to earn the bonus, which is more than enough time. Good luck and enjoy!
We hope this helps,
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The fine print says bonus applies to new accounts only…I have had this card in the past and was wondering if I would be considered a new account if I apply for a new one…I cancelled the previous one a couple of months ago..?
Also I saw somewhere where you told someone to wait 2 months between applications for new credit cards…can you explain the reason for that…? Maybe something to do with my credit score?
BTW…I love this site…keep up the excellent work.
Hey Walter!
Thanks for your questions and your patience – we’re sorry you waited to hear back from us and are super glad you’re enjoying the site 🙂
We also have some good news for you: regardless of the fact that you had this card in the past, “”new customer”” is defined by Scotiabank as anyone who is newly applying for the card, so you are entitled to the bonus.
That said, depending on when you cancelled the card, you may want to wait before applying for the Scotiabank Gold Amex. We do indeed recommend waiting 2 months before repeat applications, and this is simply to protect your credit score against unnecessary dings.
Good luck!
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Does the 4% in these categories apply to purchases made abroad (ex. in the US)? How about for the Amex Gold?
Hey Gibby! We’re glad you’re asking these awesome questions.
When using the Scotiabank Gold American Express for purchases abroad, as long as you’re buying gas, groceries, food or entertainment, the 4% cash back applies (for the Amex Gold as well). The points that you acquire can be used on your travels in a number of ways – for example, you can use them to pay off the same purchases when you return. Do be aware, however, that there is a 2.50% foreign transaction fee applied to purchases made abroad with this card, though for many purchases the 4% cash back more than covers it.
We hope this helps,
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Is there a list of accepted travel merchants for redemption? For example, if I book travel through a Groupon Getaways or Air BnB will these still qualify to redeem my points? Thanks – great site!
Hi Stephanie! Thanks for the great question.
In order to redeem your points for travel, you can book your trip and hotel through Scotiabank’s Scotia Rewards’ travel service, which offers you a full-service travel agency and can guarantee the best price on airfare.
Hopefully this answers your question!
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Is there restrictions to what grocery stores , gas stations , dining and entertainment? If so can u tell what places there restricted to? Also is the medical travel insurance cover out of country or just out of province?
Hi Jordon,
There are no restrictions per se, however, Scotia determines if a store falls into one of those merchant categories based on the SIC merchant code provided by American Express. In most cases it should be obvious (if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and smells like a duck…). However remember Walmart may not be considered a grocery store.
The medical travel insurance is for out of province AND out of country.
Enjoy!
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Wait. Each point is only worth a penny? Tomorrow I have a $4500 purchase at 1% points. Meaning 45 points. So I’m only getting 45 cents? I would have thought this would be $45 back in travel points?
Hi Justin,
To be clear, you earn 1% on a $4,500 purchase (in a non-bonus category). As a result, you would earn $45.
Hope that helps,
GreedyRates Staff
Hi there! Awesome articles.
I just finished reading your post on Best Travel Credit Card Rankings in Canada for 2017, which had me convinced that the Amex Gold Rewards Card would be best for me. (I currently have a CIBC Aeroplan card).
However now that I’ve seen this Scotia Gold Amex I’m not sure. What is the main difference/advantage between the two? From what I can see now they both offer a 25k sign up bonus and no annual fee first year. Is point accumulation/redemption easier on one than the other? I like the 4% earn rate but I think a lot of my spending might fall outside of the 4% categories.
Thank you!!
Hi Catherine,
Right now the differences are as follows:
1. Scotia Amex Gold offers more rewards on spend at 4% on gas, groceries, restaurants and entertainment
2. Amex Gold Rewards offers more rewards on spend at 2% on pharmacy and travel
3. Scotia Amex Gold offers Trip cancellation insurance
4. Amex Gold Rewards allows you to transfer your points to Aeroplan and Avios
Those are the main advantages of each card.
Hope that helps!
GreedyRates Staff
How does this card compare to the RBC Visa Infinite Avion, if my annual fee for the Avion is waived? I’m likely to use my points to pay for my trip, after I’ve purchased it through a third party website.
Hi Scott,
Removing the annual fee from both cards, we’d still say the Scotia Gold Amex card is the richer and more flexible of the two:
1. Scotia Amex Gold currently offers $250 welcome bonus, which is more valuable than Avion’s 15,000 miles
2. Scotia Amex Gold offers 4% rewards rate on gas, grocery, restaurant and entertainment spend, much better than Avion’s earn rate (but you have to spend in those categories, otherwise Avion wins).
3. Scotia Amex Gold allows you to redeem the dollar value of your points for any travel expense on your credit card statement. Avion does as well, but they discount your points when doing say, making it more expensive than if you redeem them as travel points.
Hope that helps!
GreedyRates Staff
How can I set up this card to my Aeroplan account to get the points directly?I just received the card.
Hi Ling,
I think you may be confusing the Scotiabank Gold American Express card with the Amex Gold Rewards card. None of Scotia’s cards have any relationship with Aeroplan. The Amex Gold Rewards Card allows you to convert your Amex points 1:1 to Aeroplan miles, with no additional fee. To convert your points to Aeroplan miles simply transfer the points online from your Amex account or call Amex at your convenience and they will do it for you over the phone.
Hope that helps,
GreedyRates Staff
I cancelled my American Express Gold card in November, if I apply for the Scotiabank one, I assume I will still be entitled to the welcome bonus of 20,000 points as they have no relationship with each other?
Hi Kristina,
That is correct. There is no relationship between the two. American Express is the issuer of the Amex Gold Rewards card, and Scotia is the issuer of the Scotiabnk Gold American Express Card.
Enjoy!
GreedyRates Staff
Hi there. With the Trip cancelation insurance, what qualifies? Is it only medical reasons? I have a need to change flight dates due to waiting on visa documents and have to change a departure date. Would I be refunded for these fees? Does it depend on all the airlines?
Hi Jenna,
There are many non-medical covered causes for trip cancellation. However, after reviewing section 3 of the Amex Gold Trip Cancellation Insurance certificate, which details covered causes, it does not seem to cover waiting on Visa documents. Please review the section yourself and call to ensure the correct interpretation.
GreedyRates Staff
I’m thinking about getting this card. I’m just a little worried about locations that accept this card. Generally I’ll be shopping at a Sobeys, Co-op, Safeway or Metro, and using it for all of the main gas locations like Esso, Husky etc. However for the dining and entertainment, is there a list that contains with merchants that I can view?
Hi Jeremy,
Scotia used to provide a sample list but doesn’t anymore. Besides, with thousands of restaurants across Canada, it would be hard to have a comprehensive list of restaurants.
GreedyRates Staff
Hi,
If I am going on a backpacking trip to Europe for 1.5 months, should I apply for this card purely for insurance use?
I have already purchased my flight there with a different credit card, will I still be able to use the insurance from this card?
Thanks
Hi Kiersten,
It depends on which insurance you are referring to. If you don’t have travel medical insurance the Scotiabank Gold American Express card can cover you (you’ll have to check fro exclusions), but only for 25 days. There are some cards that offer insurance for longer periods of time, but they come with an annual fee (Desjardins / National Bank).
Because you did not book your flight with the Scotia Amex Gold card, it will not protect you for coverage like trip interruption, trip delay, etc…
We need to know a little more to be helpful, hopefully the above is somewhat helpful.
GreedyRates Staff
Can you transfer the scotiabank american express points 1:1 to aeroplan?
Hi Katie,
Unfortunately not. However, you can book any flight you want, anyway you want and you’ll be able to apply the cash value of your Scotia points to your flight cost. For example, let’s say you have 40,000 Scotia points, worth $400. You then book an Air Canada flight on Expedia for $350. You can use 35,000 Scotia points to pay for the trip – up to 12 months AFTER the charge appears on your credit card!
Hope that helps!
GreedyRates Staff
Do you know if Scotiabank counts Aeroplan or Airmiles tax purchases as a travel expense? I have Aeroplan and Airmiles points and I am thinking if I purchase a flight I could pay the taxes of the flight with my Scotiabank card and then use the Scotiapoints to pay off the taxes?
Hi Rzana,
Yes, when redeeming your Aeroplan miles, if you pay for the taxes and fees with your Scotia Amex Gold Card, it will count as a travel purchase. As such, you will be able to redeem whatever Scotia rewards you have against the purchase on your credit card statement. Great idea by the way!
Hope that helps!
GreedyRates Staff
Hello,
Interesting side note, it looks like Aeroplan taxes and fees on a flight qualify as a travel purchase, but Airmiles taxes and fees on a flight do NOT qualify as a travel purchase. I wonder why that is?
First I thought, well, Airmiles allows you to redeem for regular merchandise and maybe that is why Airmiles purchases are not coded as “travel” when it posts on the credit card but then I thought Aeroplan has the eStore which allows for the purchase of regular merchadise, so I was left wondering why Airmiles purchases are never coded as “travel” but Aeroplan purchases are (or at least sometimes are)?
I wonder what the deal is here? Maybe the Aeroplan eStore purchases are actually not coded as “travel” but flight taxes and fees are? If that is the case though, then I would have thought that flight taxes and fees for an Airmiles redemption would qualify but merchandise Airmiles redemptions would not but it seems Airmiles redemptions (whether flight taxes/fees or not) do not seem to ever fall under the “travel” category.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Hi Chad,
Thanks for the feedback. Guessing Air Miles site is not coded under travel SIC merchant code, while Aeroplan is – simple as that. Aeroplan’s e-store, may have a different SIC merchant code from it’s travel redemption site.
GreedyRates Staff
Hello,
Just as a heads up, this card is also currently offering FYF! Makes this card even more appealing!
Keep up the great work…love the site!
Hi Chad,
We were just waiting for the link to go live and Scotia’s landing page to reflect the offer! All updates to the new offer have been made. Great opportunity.
Thanks for the kind words!
GreedyRates Staff
I deal with scotiabank for everything and have a STEP account, am employed and have good rating rating yet I was denied a scotiabank Gold Amex card and not sure why I do not meet their criteria???
Hi Sharon,
Usually you can call Scotia and ask them to provide you with the reason for your decline – i.e. debt/income ratio, credit score, incomplete application, not enough income. Once you have that information you can take the next step.
GreedyRates Staff
td first class travel with no fee vs scotia amex. cant decide
Hi Rick,
It all depends on where you spend. Both are good cards, Scotia Amex has a little more redemption flexibility. TD First Class offers great value if you travel a lot through Expedia, and are willing to redeem through Expedia (4.5% earn rate). If most of your spend is in gas, grocery and dining then Amex is the way to go. You just have to make sure your regular merchants accept Amex (for example Costco & Loblaws do not).
But if you bank at TD, and have a premium chekcing account, the annual fee on the TDFC can be waived, which also brings great value.
GreedyRates Staff
I currently have TD first class travel card with all inclusive bank account, So I do not pay any annual fee. I spend over $35,000/year on this card but don’t get enough benefits from this. I am thinking of applying this credit card. I mostly shop at sobeys and restaurants.
Hi Rahul,
If you’re spending $35K per year, chances are a significant portion of your spend is outside of Sobeys and restaurants, would we be right on that? If so, you’ll only be getting 1% on those purchases from your Scotiabank Gold Amex card. You might want to also consider a premium travel card that gives you 2% on all spend like the MBNA World Elite, or BMO World Elite MasterCard. Check out your approximate earn rate on our travel card comparison page.
Regardless, we would say in your case the Scotia Amex Gold would come out ahead of the TD First Class Infinite, due to the 4% earn rate you’ll get at Sobeys and restaurants, versus 1.5% with the TD First Class Infinite card.
Hope that helps,
GreedyRates Staff
Also worth noting that points from Scotia Amex cards can be used retroactively for up to 12 months. So when you’re ready to cancel the card, you can apply all your outstanding points to any travel purchase in the last year. With many other cards, it’s difficult to use up the points at the time of cancellation unless you have a travel booking to make at that time. Failing that, because the points are Scotia points, not Amex points, they can be transferred to another lower-fee Scotia card.
Great point Peter. One question though. If you’ve already paid down your balance from your trip 11 months ago (for example), what balance are your points being applied against?
GreedyRates Staff
Even though you already paid out your travel expenses, it will deduct the amount from the balance from other purchases. For example, you had travel expenses for 500 in January and already paid in full. In May you have balance form other purchases for 1000, you can apply the points for 500, then you only need to pay 500 in May. It really gives you the flexcibility to manage your cash flow.
Hi Glenn,
Great point. Just to reiterate, Scotia tallies all of your travel expenses, and allows you to redeem your points against expenses at any point in time within 12 months from the date the travel purchase was posted to your account. Very flexible.
Thanks Glenn,
GreedyRates Staff
I currently have a Capital One Aspire Travel costing $120 per month with annual 10,000 bonus points and never expiring 2x point per $ on any purchases. Scotiobank called me today and offered me a pre-approved Gold American Express. Should I take it? AFAICS I’m better off with C1 because of the annual award and the 2x points on any purchases, or? Are there any other cards which can compete with the now-no-longer-offered-in-the-form-described-here C1 Aspire card?
Hi Simon,
The legacy CapOne card has a strong value proposition no doubt. However, we would say that the optimal way to maximize rewards is through the welcome bonuses offered through new card sign-ups. For example, your current C1 card offers 2%, $100 bonus & $120 fee. If you get the MBNA Rewards World Elite card, you’ll get 2%, $100 & no fee in the first year. Get the TD Aeroplan Infinite card and you’ll get around 1.8%, 25,000 miles (~$320), & no fee in the 1st year. Scotia Gold often offers no fee in 1st year, $200 bonus and up to 4%.
The largest share of value is in the welcome bonus and fee waivers. That’s where you should focus, in our opinion.
Hope that helps,
GreedyRates Staff
Just got my scotia gold Amex yesterday. How long does it take for the 20 000 points to be added to the account?
Hi Jaimie,
Per Scotia: “The bonus points will appear as an adjustment on your Scotiabank Gold American Express Card statement within two statement cycles after the third billing cycle has passed.”
They wait 3 statements to ensure you meet the activation and $500 minimum spend threshold within the first 90 days. Then you should get the 20,000 points within two statements from that point. A total of 4-5 statement periods.
Hope that helps,
GreedyRates Staff
Just like to point out that I think your numbers are a little skewed. I have this card, and I will be getting rid of this card once my anniversary date is up. The reason being is that the 4%, while seeming awesome had a hidden caveat. The places you shop at have to be registered as “grocery” in order to be covered under the 4%. This means Walmart and Costco, which have dramatically better quality of goods and prices usually are not covered as grocery, so you’ll be only getting 1% on these purchases. Considering that where I live, these stores are the better choice vs Sobeys, Save-on and Safeway, I’ve just lost a lot of points because of this rule.
Hi David,
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, you’re correct, only standalone grocery and gas retail locations qualify. Costco is considered a discount wholesaler, not a grocer (although they don’t accept Amex anymore anyways) and most WalMarts is considered a general merchandise – these classifications are made by Amex on the merchant processing side of the business, not by Scotia.
For Scotia to accept WalMart, they would then have to accept the likes of Sears and Hudson Bay, who are also considered general merchandise.
To Scotia’s credit, they do make it pretty clear in their marketing collateral and disclosures. That said, if you’re a frequent WalMart shopper, this card will not provide the value you’re looking for, and there will be better alternatives. However, if you shop at Sobeys, Save-On, Safeway, Metro or any independent grocery store, you’ll get your 4%. Same with gas, if you fill up at a Canadian Tire location, you will not get credited. But fill up at any Petro, Shell, Esso, Husky location and you’re fine.
GreedyRates Staff
Hello
I have a AMEX gold card do these points (20k) from Scotiabank link up into my AMEX gold account taking it from 25k to 45k in points? tx
Hi Mike,
Unfortunately not! The points you earn from your Scotiabank Gold Amex card do not synch with your Amex Gold card points.
Regards,
GreedyRates Staff
But technically, you could transfer all existing Amex points to Aeroplan, then close or keep card – sign up for Scotiabank card.
Hi Jason,
Absolutely you could – we’re all for accumulating as many bonus points without an annual fee as possible. However, I think Mike was looking for another means of accumulating Amex points. Unfortunately, The Scotia Gold Amex has no relationship with the Amex Gold Rewards Card or Amex points program.
GreedyRates Staff
This card would be great if they would bring back the higher sign up points and no first year fee. Do you think that is likely to happen soon?
We can’t confirm that it will or when it will. That said, if you’re looking for a book anywhere card, that allows you to apply your points to any travel expense on your credit card statement, the TD First Class Infinite card currently has a first year annual fee waiver and a 40,000 point sign-up bonus worth $200. Read the review and let us know what you think.
Best,
GreedyRates Staff